Lots of Landmines, No Metal Detector: Part the Second

18 Responses

  1. flutter says:

    I hope you squoze out more of this story

  2. Jenn @ Juggling Life says:

    Can I please join you and Jon?!

  3. diane says:

    They manage to come around full circle once they're adults. Funny how that works.
    Where I grew up, we had Slushies. mmmmm.

  4. kmkat says:

    Yep, if they are still breathing, etc., you have done your job well. Congratulations!

  5. geewits says:

    The only thing I was ever a stickler about was caffeine. I grew up in the old south where even toddlers drank cokes and iced tea. My daughter was allowed only milk, fruit juice or Sprite. One evening at a restaurant my 14 or 15 year old daughter, in that very serious tone that a teen may use to tell you they've had sex or gotten drunk, said to me, "Mom, you know I've had cokes, right?" And I let her order her very first cola. At 25, she's still not a giant cola drinker and although she'll get an iced tea here or there, she usually orders water. To have with her beer.

  6. Jane says:

    Hi there…(de-lurking is always little awkward)..I have enjoyed reading your blog for AHEM a few years now. I have some cultural questions for you (which you prob. have no time to answer!) Why, o why do school lunches exist in the USA? And have they always been of such dubious quality? The school lunch features in American Tv and I often wonder…In Australia it's usual to bring lunch in a bag and eat in the playground together. There's often a parent run "canteen" where kids buy the occasional lunch. But you know, weekly or less often; and they can always buy a sandwich there. Also WHY ON EARTH can't the bag lunch kids eat with the cafeteria kids? Of course girl is going to chose to eat deep fried gunk in that situation.
    The dishcloth on eyes treatment sounds effective.

    I hope I don't sound strident. Just am seriously curious.

  7. middle-aged-woman says:

    It's not "lowering the standards" it's "arranging the priorities."

  8. Shieldmaiden96 says:

    What an insane setup re: the lunches. Everyone knows that you get your group of firends together, and the 'bringers', who don't have to get in any lines, save seats for the 'buyers' so you can all sit together.

  9. Liv says:

    it's as my son told me: EDP (extended day program) takes longer, but it's more funner with the snacks.

    so he went when i forgot to get him from school yesterday…and, i do believe it was more funner with the snacks.

  10. Midlife Jobhunter says:

    Yes, how we try to control that world – and how it can so easily go to hell. I fed them well (okay I won't mention the fish stick and frenchfry dinners) and kept Nintendo and cable TV away from them. Made them play outside, nature walk, think. Then I got tired.

    I love blue raspberry – mainly because of the blue color. Don't even want to know what's in it.

  11. Jocelyn says:

    Jane: The great thing about de-lurking is it then allows me to LUFF you! Sometimes, I look at my site meter and see all the numbers, and then I look at my fabulous and beloved 20 steady commenters, and I wonder if the numbers on my meter come from me clicking onto my own site hundreds of times each week. It's reassuring to know it's not all just me.

    Your questions are excellent. As I understand it, hot lunches offered in schools came about as a way for the government to make sure kids in poverty were getting to eat…and then it grew from there. It's gotten increasingly complex, in terms of why the worst of junk is offered to the smallest bodies. Here's a quote from an article written by astute food critic Michael Pollan:

    "The farm bill helps determine what sort of food your children will have for lunch in school tomorrow. The school-lunch program began at a time when the public-health problem of America's children was undernourishment, so feeding surplus agricultural commodities to kids seemed like a win-win strategy. Today the problem is overnutrition, but a school lunch lady trying to prepare healthful fresh food is apt to get dinged by U.S.D.A. inspectors for failing to serve enough calories; if she dishes up a lunch that includes chicken nuggets and Tater Tots, however, the inspector smiles and the reimbursements flow. The farm bill essentially treats our children as a human Disposall for all the unhealthful calories that the farm bill has encouraged American farmers to overproduce."

    The entire article (which explains the farm bill better) can be read at: http://www.michaelpollan.com/article.php?id=88

    As far as hot lunchers sitting with hot lunchers and brown baggers sitting with brown baggers, I think it's school specific (it wasn't that way where I went as a kid…nor does it seem to be that way in the schools of some commenters here); it must be some sort of crowd control mechanism so that the cafeteria isn't full of splinter groups and cliques or something. I dunno.

    In other news, the standard hot lunch menu was switched up this week, so it's not pizza every Wednesday but now it's MINI-HOT DOGS, which, clearly, is an improvement. Also, "shrimp poppers" have been added as a weekly offering…which is so cool, considering those shrimp had to fly thousands of miles to get to us–and because 8 year olds are really known for loving sea food.

    I hope you continue to comment, Jane. I promise not to hurt you.

  12. Green Girl in Wisconsin says:

    Ooh…I can just imagine her face when she tasted that ICEE!
    I'm like you, trying to find moderation. We're good with beverages, working on snacks. My kids would still opt for sugar over substance, but they recognize that too much makes them sick and then they crave carrots.

  13. jess says:

    We lunch bringers used to eat in the classroom at our desks while the hot lunch kids went to the cafeteria. I never minded though, because I just had my nose in a book the whole time. The lunch aides LOVED me.

    The only drawback was that instead of brown bags, all the other kids had cool She-ra (Princess of Power!) and Mr. T lunchboxes and I was stuck with the complete tupperware lunch set. Also I had carrot sticks instead of potato chips and apple slices instead of twinkies. Other than that though, it wasn't so bad.

  14. secret agent woman says:

    Ooh, the idea of meeting Jon Stewart for a beer just totally distracted me.

    I figure the kids are basically going to eat how I eat – so it's mostly healthy but we sure don't refrain from buying pizzas or cookies. Life is to be enjoyed.

  15. Jazz says:

    I figure if kids have a good base, it'll stay with the and eventually they'll wander back.

  16. lime says:

    ok, forgive me, because i get the main point here, really i do. my problem, where i got completely hung up, is pat robertson and a zucchini. that's just horrifyingly disturbing imagery, sis. really…and i like zucchini.

    my other aside is this. soul coolant would be an awesome name for a rock band.

    with that i will welcome you to the road of moderation and congratulate you on a girl who eschews cap'n crunch. in my efforts to provide excellent nutritious food options in house of lime my offspring have somehow developed the concept that hot pockets and lucky charms are great sometimes treats since i never purchase that crap.

  17. Jeni says:

    The bit about the buyers and the brown baggers tripped a bit of a memory in me from those dark ages when I went to school Back then, I think I was maybe in 3rd or 4th grade when we got a cafeteria in our school and then, it was merely a serving line as the food was cooked at the high school cafeteria about 2 miles away and transported to our school for serving. There were no free lunches then so if you ate in the cafeteria, you had to have cash on the barrel head, ya know. And cash was something that was often in very short supply in my home then (how some things never seem to change, huh?) and so my Mom usually would have me choose between a brown bag lunch or if I wanted to come home for lunch. (That was something we could do then too as the elementary school was within walking distance albeit a LONG walking distance of about 3/4 of a mile and it was "uphill, both ways" too!) So when the cafeteria came into being, I then had three choices: cafeteria, brown bag or home for lunch. And I, because I wanted to be part of the "in" crowd of course, would watch out the window to see my classmates as they came out to start our morning walk to school to see if they were carrying a brown bag or not. If they were, then I would take my brown bag lunch. No brown bag in their hands, presented a bit of a quandry (how the hell do you spell that anyway?) as I didn't know if they had cash for the cafeteria or if they were coming home and I had to make a choice, praying I would luck out and make the decision that would allow me to walk home for lunch with them or sit at the table in the cafeteria and enjoy a hot lunch. It's no wonder my Mom went gray as early as she did and if she'd had more kids than just me who may have had the same neediness to deal with, she probably would have been bald! The things we do as we strive towards acceptance.

  18. chelle says:

    You had me at hot dog casserole.


    We Canadians do not provide hot lunch till high school. We do have the breakfast thing .. but parent volunteers cook it so you know it is the hippie, goody goody two shoes parents that are signing up for that gig.

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